Could not see why people were okay knowing that mRNA was being messed around with. Freaked me out, and early on I did a quick internet search on lipid nanoparticles and the information was that they were used to deliver Alzheimer's drugs as they could get into the brain.
Next model of clotshots we might be told how good graphene oxide is. It needs some improved publicity. :)
I had a different reason for refusing all Covid vaccines, regardless of mechanism.
No prior coronavirus vaccine had ever been developed because each had led to ADE (typically seen in tests with cats or ferrets, which are a standard model for the human respiratory system) and was abandoned. The FDA briefing papers acknowledged ADE as a risk. Animal tests were done in monkeys which are NOT a good model for respiratory infection in humans.
I know enough about ADE to know it’s a problem once neutralising antibody levels have waned, which I expected to take about 2-3 years . I wasn’t worried about Covid as I am not at risk, and I figured it could become a risk if ADE were a problem. So I decided to wait. And maybe learn a bit more about the side effect profile. And the side effects were very evident by Jan 2021 when death rates in old folks homes spiked as they were jabbed. From “covid” allegedly, but this seemed deeply suspicious to me.
So different initial reasons, but sensible ones (despite ADE not yet being a dramatic killer...time will tell, Geert Vanden Bossche is still concerned)
Definitely! Full disclosure: at the time I was working for a vaccine company (not one of those that made one of the initial Covid jabs) so I knew there were issues with mRNA. I was kind of astonished when they claimed 95% efficacy...seemed unlikely but until whistleblowers like Brooke Jackson came forward, I had no evidence of skullduggery. I just thought “hmmm....let’s see how it plays out in the real world first”
The other thing that rang alarm bells was when Bourla kept making comments about the need to boost as early as Spring 2021. Obviously he already knew antibodies waned fast, and it seemed very suspicious. I’ve seen enough vaccines developed to know you usually wait a year or longer before thinking about the boosting schedule, because you don’t flipping launch one that sees such a rapid decline in antibody titres.
Oh and the DNA AAV vaccines? They’ve been known to be associated with clotting issues since 2007. And the AZ trial had 2 cases of transverse myelitis in it, which made it a no-no as far as I was concerned. A 1 in 10k risk of TM alone is far more dangerous than Covid for someone like me (not old, not fat, not unwell).
That's brilliant! I'm so glad you put a link to all those excellent resources. Isn't Workflowy great? I only use the off-line version though - convenient though the online facility is. I am determined to have a longer look at your writings, after a quick glance. Please feel free to remind me!
Sep 22, 2023·edited Sep 22, 2023Liked by Jonathan Reece
Thank you, Jonathan, for your generous feedback. I'm glad you to know you are using and enjoying Workflowy, too. I use the offline (desktop) version, too, for task management, and it has been a God-send, indeed.
For example, have you tried the "Dashboard" view in WF? It's still in beta, but I've found it to be immensely helpful in displaying multiple segments of my outline side-by-side on the same page. (Dashboards are a "hidden" alternative to the standard bullet. board and to-do features.)
Thank you also for your interest in the WF resource list I shared. You can revisit it (and share it with others) using this link:
Also, FWIW, I just now took the liberty of adding your feedback about my BeyondC19.org library at the top of the page, along with a link to your Substack. I hope that will help with giving your stack a bit more visibility. :-)
However, if you would prefer for me to delete your comment for any reason, just let me know and I will take it down immediately. Just let me know. Thanks again!
I appreciate we are now 10 months on but many thanks for your article.
I take a simple approach myself and call myself anti-stupid, not anti-vaxxer because vaccines contain poisons/foreign bodies to create an immune response.
But since when has it been a good idea to poison oneself in the name of good health?
Well done. I particularly appreciate the commentary which included the Danes. They decided to use proper IM injection technique, with aspiration to assure a minimal risk of "intravascular" administration.
It's still a horribly inappropriate and unnecessary "therapy", but I appreciate the relative integrity of the Danish.
In a paper called "mRNA Vaccine Toxicity" posted by D4CE, section five contains a reference to the rate of accidental intravascular administration with normal IM precautions: one to two percent!
AWESOME COMMENTARY! 💥
Well done.
You will be shocked once you look at the approvals for the other vaccines. They are just as bad, I'm sorry to say.
Welcome to "Anti-Vax" Land...
and if this article didnt convince you i'd recommend this video to see how crooked and down right monstrous the FDA are: https://open.substack.com/pub/20thcenturyray/p/if-you-want-people-to-see-how-medicine?r=14o3q9&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email
Thanks Ray. That's an important one for sure.
Could not see why people were okay knowing that mRNA was being messed around with. Freaked me out, and early on I did a quick internet search on lipid nanoparticles and the information was that they were used to deliver Alzheimer's drugs as they could get into the brain.
Next model of clotshots we might be told how good graphene oxide is. It needs some improved publicity. :)
Heh-heh.
So well stated - just common sense and curiosity and independent thought. Bravo.
I’ve only just found this article.
I had a different reason for refusing all Covid vaccines, regardless of mechanism.
No prior coronavirus vaccine had ever been developed because each had led to ADE (typically seen in tests with cats or ferrets, which are a standard model for the human respiratory system) and was abandoned. The FDA briefing papers acknowledged ADE as a risk. Animal tests were done in monkeys which are NOT a good model for respiratory infection in humans.
I know enough about ADE to know it’s a problem once neutralising antibody levels have waned, which I expected to take about 2-3 years . I wasn’t worried about Covid as I am not at risk, and I figured it could become a risk if ADE were a problem. So I decided to wait. And maybe learn a bit more about the side effect profile. And the side effects were very evident by Jan 2021 when death rates in old folks homes spiked as they were jabbed. From “covid” allegedly, but this seemed deeply suspicious to me.
So different initial reasons, but sensible ones (despite ADE not yet being a dramatic killer...time will tell, Geert Vanden Bossche is still concerned)
Quite right! My thinking exctly ... for a NORMAL i.e. proper vaccine. But when it turned out to be an mRNA one, there was another huge alarm bell.
Definitely! Full disclosure: at the time I was working for a vaccine company (not one of those that made one of the initial Covid jabs) so I knew there were issues with mRNA. I was kind of astonished when they claimed 95% efficacy...seemed unlikely but until whistleblowers like Brooke Jackson came forward, I had no evidence of skullduggery. I just thought “hmmm....let’s see how it plays out in the real world first”
The other thing that rang alarm bells was when Bourla kept making comments about the need to boost as early as Spring 2021. Obviously he already knew antibodies waned fast, and it seemed very suspicious. I’ve seen enough vaccines developed to know you usually wait a year or longer before thinking about the boosting schedule, because you don’t flipping launch one that sees such a rapid decline in antibody titres.
Oh and the DNA AAV vaccines? They’ve been known to be associated with clotting issues since 2007. And the AZ trial had 2 cases of transverse myelitis in it, which made it a no-no as far as I was concerned. A 1 in 10k risk of TM alone is far more dangerous than Covid for someone like me (not old, not fat, not unwell).
Giant red flags all over the shop.
Excellent summary! I look forward to reviewing this, and all the related resources, videos, etc., in more detail soon.
In the meantime, I've added a link to your great article into my own version of this summary:
> As a Matter of Fact, We DID Know!
-- https://workflowy.com/s/beyond-covid-19/SoQPdY75WJteLUYx#/a7793df453dd
... in fact I've just subscribed to your stack, Metta. It looks very well organised. You might like to reciprocate! ;-)
Thank you for “liking” my article on “How Antivaxxers Think”.
I think that the two most important articles I’ve written are “What’s Wrong With The Greater Good”, and “Coping with Disagreement …”
You might find them helpful; and if so, you might like to “follow” me. It’s free, and always will be.
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/whats-wrong-with-the-greater-good
https://whatdoino.substack.com/p/copy-coping-with-disagreement-and
Best wishes,
Jonathan
That's brilliant! I'm so glad you put a link to all those excellent resources. Isn't Workflowy great? I only use the off-line version though - convenient though the online facility is. I am determined to have a longer look at your writings, after a quick glance. Please feel free to remind me!
Thank you, Jonathan, for your generous feedback. I'm glad you to know you are using and enjoying Workflowy, too. I use the offline (desktop) version, too, for task management, and it has been a God-send, indeed.
For example, have you tried the "Dashboard" view in WF? It's still in beta, but I've found it to be immensely helpful in displaying multiple segments of my outline side-by-side on the same page. (Dashboards are a "hidden" alternative to the standard bullet. board and to-do features.)
Thank you also for your interest in the WF resource list I shared. You can revisit it (and share it with others) using this link:
> BeyondC19.org
The most recently added content is accessible here:
> https://workflowy.com/s/beyond-covid-19/SoQPdY75WJteLUYx#/80d6b7804b19
If you'd like, you can also download my entire resource list ("library") and view it within your own WF account:
> https://workflowy.com/s/beyond-covid-19/SoQPdY75WJteLUYx#/e48e374b7a41
In addition, if you are interested in very occasional email updates about my library, they are available here:
> BeyondC19.net
Hope this helps! :-)
Also, FWIW, I just now took the liberty of adding your feedback about my BeyondC19.org library at the top of the page, along with a link to your Substack. I hope that will help with giving your stack a bit more visibility. :-)
However, if you would prefer for me to delete your comment for any reason, just let me know and I will take it down immediately. Just let me know. Thanks again!
I'm most grateful.
Great! Thanks for your willingness to share. Much appreciated! :-)
I appreciate we are now 10 months on but many thanks for your article.
I take a simple approach myself and call myself anti-stupid, not anti-vaxxer because vaccines contain poisons/foreign bodies to create an immune response.
But since when has it been a good idea to poison oneself in the name of good health?
https://baldmichael.substack.com/p/why-vaccines-do-not-work-in-a-nutshell
Well done. I particularly appreciate the commentary which included the Danes. They decided to use proper IM injection technique, with aspiration to assure a minimal risk of "intravascular" administration.
It's still a horribly inappropriate and unnecessary "therapy", but I appreciate the relative integrity of the Danish.
In a paper called "mRNA Vaccine Toxicity" posted by D4CE, section five contains a reference to the rate of accidental intravascular administration with normal IM precautions: one to two percent!